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	<title>Comments on: the server did not provide a certificate during the session e-mail error</title>
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		<title>By: John Boukis</title>
		<link>http://www.joroto.com/blog/2010/01/21/solving-%e2%80%9c-the-server-did-not-provide-a-certificate-during-the-session%e2%80%9d-e-mail-error/#comment-1801</link>
		<dc:creator>John Boukis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You probably do not care as you Open Source guys get so stuck on using certain apps, but the Bat! was out seven years before Thunderbird (1997 vs. 1994.) Its mail ticker and other advanced features are spectacular.

Yea, they know they have a problem.  Do not tell me there is not one problem with Thunderbird...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You probably do not care as you Open Source guys get so stuck on using certain apps, but the Bat! was out seven years before Thunderbird (1997 vs. 1994.) Its mail ticker and other advanced features are spectacular.</p>
<p>Yea, they know they have a problem.  Do not tell me there is not one problem with Thunderbird&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. Dump the Bat email client and you&#039;ll be fine. Thunderbird works. Its a bat or umm Bat! (ooouuu I like the exclamation mark).
Anyway tell them they have a problem and quit whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. Dump the Bat email client and you&#8217;ll be fine. Thunderbird works. Its a bat or umm Bat! (ooouuu I like the exclamation mark).<br />
Anyway tell them they have a problem and quit whining.</p>
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		<title>By: John Boukis</title>
		<link>http://www.joroto.com/blog/2010/01/21/solving-%e2%80%9c-the-server-did-not-provide-a-certificate-during-the-session%e2%80%9d-e-mail-error/#comment-1776</link>
		<dc:creator>John Boukis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have one customer using the Bat! version 3.9xx in Windows 98.  He has downloaded the complete chain certificate himself, repeatedly imported it into the Bat! and added it to the address book, with no luck in eliminating this error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have one customer using the Bat! version 3.9xx in Windows 98.  He has downloaded the complete chain certificate himself, repeatedly imported it into the Bat! and added it to the address book, with no luck in eliminating this error.</p>
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		<title>By: John Boukis</title>
		<link>http://www.joroto.com/blog/2010/01/21/solving-%e2%80%9c-the-server-did-not-provide-a-certificate-during-the-session%e2%80%9d-e-mail-error/#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>John Boukis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 13:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talked to Tom about this.  After his initial, &quot;Newbies!&quot; comment for those of us who had this problem, both on Windows and Mac, he then became helpful.

Apparently under a newer system, certificates cannot be renewed.  Our provider may have renewed a certificate, which renders it invalid.  After my phone call and who knows how many others, they may have issued a new certificate.  Apparently not only Windows XP, but also Apple Mail (Steve you&#039;ll have to show this to me some day, sounds fascinating!) choked on this.  Our Apple guy (every company needs one) was able to delete his certificate, and the Apple system reliably downloaded the new chain of certificates.  The Bat! e-mail client is one that has the worse hissy fits, thus I had to jump through the above hoops to update it.

Tom also stated that Windows just plain has trouble with PKCS12 certificates.  If a provider issues such, that could be a problem also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talked to Tom about this.  After his initial, &#8220;Newbies!&#8221; comment for those of us who had this problem, both on Windows and Mac, he then became helpful.</p>
<p>Apparently under a newer system, certificates cannot be renewed.  Our provider may have renewed a certificate, which renders it invalid.  After my phone call and who knows how many others, they may have issued a new certificate.  Apparently not only Windows XP, but also Apple Mail (Steve you&#8217;ll have to show this to me some day, sounds fascinating!) choked on this.  Our Apple guy (every company needs one) was able to delete his certificate, and the Apple system reliably downloaded the new chain of certificates.  The Bat! e-mail client is one that has the worse hissy fits, thus I had to jump through the above hoops to update it.</p>
<p>Tom also stated that Windows just plain has trouble with PKCS12 certificates.  If a provider issues such, that could be a problem also.</p>
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